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Share Question TwitterFacebookGoogle+Related Topics IndiaIndian Ethnicity and PeopleIndian Culture And HeritageLanguages of IndiaTamil (language)Tamil (language): What are the facts put forward by researchers to believe that "Kumarikandam" or "Lemuria" indeed existed? Want Answers85 9 AnswersSharanya Sunderamoorthy, I stay here and one among them...I stay here and one among them...257 upvotes by Quora User, Sivaramakrishnan Jayaram, Siva Ganeshan, (more)Loading...nice topic .. Lemuria and Kumarikandam ...the lost continent..a myth or a mystery What is Kumari kandam ? Kumarikandam is the hypothetical lost continent with ancient Tamil civilization ,its said to be lost in the Indian Ocean...It is said to be the cradle of tamil civilization....present day Tamil Nadu is all that is left behind of this wonderful continent..another name for kumari kandam is kumari nadu....The very first civilization in the world originated here and the very first language in the world was spoken here...It is said to have been sunken some 20,000 years back...kumari kandam now serves as a source of fictional inspiration for writing novel ...The word "kumari"is a tamil word which means pure/virgin...its said that it symbolizes the purity of the tamil culture that survived there ,and purity of the Tamil people who lived there before invasion by the Indo Aryans. What is lemuria? Lemuria is a hypothetical lost land around Indian and Pacific ocean...Geologist believe there had to be some huge continent that has sunk deep below the oceans ,which had an important civilization..Lemuria is what the westerners call this unknown continent.. Lemuria in popular culture Is kumari kandam and Lemuria the same ? There have been claims that these both Lemuria and Kumari Kandam are one at the same...lot of references from sangam litreture were quoted..but because there was no scientific evidence and till date the lost continent never recovered,hence this is still in the debate.. Why did kumar kandam/lemuria drown ? There are some intresting theories about it 1.pole shift :It is said that there has been some sudden tilt in the pole ,that has lead to this catastrophie 2.Earthquakes 3.Raise in the sea level 4.continental drift theory :due to some problem with the tectonic plates ,this continent is said to have moved away.This is the most popular and widely accepted theory Who ruled kumari kandam and what is so important about it? -Kumari Kandam was said to be ruled by Pandiya kings -the first two sangam eras (Tamil literary academy ) is said to be present here..I have to mention a word about these tamil sangams First tamil sangam : was eatablished in Thenmadurai (not madurai-madurai is in Tamil nadu ,but Thenmadurai ,south of madurai was in kumari kandam ) ,dated some 4400 years back and was attended by 4449 poets (this is like the present day book release function ,where their poems and litrary works were inograted )..The fuction was presided over by Lord Shiva and Lord Muruga (It is said that Muruga was given the status of Tamil Lord here)-technically 4449 literature and poetry works were released Second Tamil Sangam: Second tamil sangam was hosted in a place called 'Kapatapuram' ,which were attended by 3700 poets and 3700 literary works were released.. It is said that both these tamil sangams were washed away by oceans..taking away all these books and epic works along with it. Third tamil sangam: this is established in Uttara (located in present day Madurai) ,this tamil association flourished for 1860 years (after which it was closed down,dint know what happened) -Lot of good/rare literary works is said to be lost here -Some say the first ever library in the world ,with some cool collection of tamil litreture ,first inograted by the pandiya king,is said to have lost here.. -Lot of nice monumental temples and sculptures have said to be drowned here. -There were some mind blowing siddhar resided in the continent with some awesome knowledge in science and predictions of future is said to have been lost here (few claim that the olai chuvadis in chidhambaram temple ,where nadi josiyam is popular,where the future are predicted ,is nothing but the saved ones,and the remaining lost when this continent drowned ) -Lot of ways of tamil culture is said to have had its origin here.. -It is also said that the present day residents of Kaniya kumari ,are the saved people from the lost continent. Literary evidence for Kumari Kandam There are lots of evidence of this lost land in the sangam litreture -The first eveidence of kumari kandam appears in SKANDA PURANAM written by Kachiappa Sivachariya..following is a quote/translation from Skanda puranam where Kumani Kandam is mentioned "The Andakosappadalam section of Kanda Puranamdescribes the following cosmological model of the universe: There are many worlds, each having several continents, which in turn, have several kingdoms. Paratan, the ruler of one such kingdom, had eight sons and one daughter. He further divided his kingdom into nine parts, and the part ruled by his daughter Kumari came to be known as Kumari Kandam after her. Kumari Kandam is described as the kingdom of the Earth. " -In IRAYANNAR AKKAPORUL (also called the study of stolen love-it is a medival litreture that deals with love and relationship...another beautiful unsung tamil litreture..for more reads check out this link.. Iraiyanar Akapporul If anyone is in search of a nice romance literature check this out..totally cool stuff Ok back to the ans ,in Iraniyanar akkaporul there is a mention about kumari kandam ,it speaks about a lost ocean and specifically mentions a word 'Katalkol' which means 'seizure by ocean'..I guess this pretty much explains it.. -This is from the book KALLITHOGAI ...note the following Kadal Vowval word to denote uprising of sea annotated by Nachinarkiniyar in Tamil Sangam (6th Century BCE). Kadal Kol, Kadarperuku (like Aadi Peruku) are the others used in various Tamil Sangams. Underlined words in image 1. Kadal Vowval: fierce uprsing of the sea 2. Mel Sendru: people climed up (in the mountains) 3. Palhi Theerndha Velayum: the white waves that sought revenge 4. Ma Kadal Kalakua Ma Kondra Madanga Por: with the sea waging a huge war {Poem 104, from Kalithogai, Chapter Mullaikili - describes how the land of Kumari was consumed by sea} (special thanks to the admin of the facebook page kumari kandam -who keeps updating with evidence ) -There is also mention of Kumari Kandam in SILAPADHIGARAM ...its mentioned like the land extending from Paruli river in the north to kumari river in the south..this land is located to the south of Kanyakumari and covered an area of 700 kavattam and it is divided into 49 territories in the following seven catogories •Elu teñku natu ("Seven coconut lands") •Elu Maturai natu ("Seven Madurai natu") •Elu munpalai natu ("Seven front sandy areas") •Elu pinpalai natu ("Seven back sandy tracts") •Elu kunra natu ("Seven hilly villages") •Elu kunakarai natu ("Seven eastern littoral hamlets") •Elu kurumpanai natu ("Seven dwarf-palm districts") silapadhigaram is the first evidence which has mentioned about the sq.feet area of the lost land .. There is also a mention of this lost land in tholkappiyam,Purananuru and Kathilkottai ,but it is found scattered among the versus Monumental evidence of kumari kandam : -There are lot of temples around tamil nadu which have paintings and inscriptions in their walls on the account of this drastic flood..these include prominent temples in kanyakumari ,thiruvatriyour,sirkhazhi,kumbakonnam and madurai... -There is a temple called the seven pagodas of mahabalipuram which is submerged in the sea near ecr ,which is said to have lot of evidence about this flood. below quoted from wiki... The Puranas place the beginning of the most popular Hindu flood myth - the legend of Manu - in South India. The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). The Matsya Purana(dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on Mount Malaya of South India.[7]:57 Manimekalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the king forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him.[7]:62 -A Tamil-Brahmi inscription that pushes back the association of Samanamalai (“Jaina Hill”), 15 km from Madurai, with Jainism to 2,200 years, has been discovered on the hill. check out this documentary on kumari kandam in history channel This documentary too..a must watch -there is a facebook page for kumari kandam/lemuria which regularly updates on any articles on this topic,which helped me a lot to read about .. Kumari Kandam also read, Lemuria (continent) Lemuria and Kumari Kandam Kumari Kandam The Lost Land of Lemuria wordpress.com Kumari Kandam- The Lost Continent(குமரிக்கண்டம்) Embed Quote Updated 15 Oct, 2014. 13,467 views.Upvote257DownvoteComments20+More Answers Below. Related Questions If Alex Collier's claims about Lemuria are just a hoax, what is the need for him to choose Tamil as the language of the oldest civiliza

Tamil (language): What are the facts put forward by researchers to believe that "Kumarikandam" or "Lemuria" indeed existed?

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Sharanya Sunderamoorthy Sharanya Sunderamoorthy, I stay here and one among them...
257 upvotes by Quora User, Sivaramakrishnan Jayaram, Siva Ganeshan, (more)
nice topic ..

Lemuria and Kumarikandam ...the lost continent..a myth or a mystery


What is Kumari kandam ?
Kumarikandam is the hypothetical lost continent with ancient Tamil civilization ,its said to be lost in the Indian Ocean...It is said to be the cradle of tamil civilization....present day Tamil Nadu is all that is left behind of this wonderful continent..another name for kumari kandam is kumari nadu....The very first civilization in the world originated here and the very first language in the world was spoken here...It is said to have been sunken some 20,000 years back...kumari kandam now serves as a source of fictional inspiration for writing novel ...The word "kumari"is a tamil word which means pure/virgin...its said that it symbolizes the purity of the tamil culture that survived there ,and purity of the Tamil people who lived there before invasion by the Indo Aryans.


What is lemuria?
Lemuria is a hypothetical lost land around Indian and Pacific ocean...Geologist believe there had to be some huge continent that has sunk deep below the oceans ,which had an important civilization..Lemuria is what the westerners call this unknown continent..
Lemuria in popular culture


Is kumari kandam and Lemuria the same ?
There have been claims that these both Lemuria and Kumari Kandam are one at the same...lot of references from sangam litreture were quoted..but because there was no scientific evidence and till date the lost continent never recovered,hence this is still in the debate..

Why did kumar kandam/lemuria drown ?
There are some intresting theories about it
1.pole shift :It is said that there has been some sudden tilt in the pole ,that has lead to this catastrophie
2.Earthquakes
3.Raise in the sea level
4.continental drift theory :due to some problem with the tectonic plates ,this continent is said to have moved away.This is the most popular and widely accepted theory

Who ruled kumari kandam and what is so important about it?
-Kumari Kandam was said to be ruled by Pandiya kings
-the first two sangam eras (Tamil literary academy ) is said to be present here..I have to mention a word about these tamil sangams
First tamil sangam : was eatablished in Thenmadurai (not madurai-madurai is in Tamil nadu ,but Thenmadurai ,south of madurai was in kumari kandam ) ,dated some 4400 years back and was attended by 4449 poets (this is like the present day book release function ,where their poems and litrary works were inograted )..The fuction was presided over by Lord Shiva and Lord Muruga (It is said that Muruga was given the status of Tamil Lord here)-technically 4449 literature and poetry works were released
Second Tamil Sangam: Second tamil sangam was hosted in a place called 'Kapatapuram' ,which were attended by 3700 poets and 3700 literary works were released..
It is said that both these tamil sangams were washed away by oceans..taking away all these books and epic works along with it.
Third tamil sangam: this is established in Uttara (located in present day Madurai) ,this tamil association flourished for 1860 years (after which it was closed down,dint know what happened)

-Lot of good/rare literary works is said to be lost here
-Some say the first ever library in the world ,with some cool collection of tamil litreture ,first inograted by the pandiya king,is said to have lost here..
-Lot of nice monumental temples and sculptures have said to be drowned here.
-There were some mind blowing siddhar resided in the continent with some awesome knowledge in science and predictions of future is said to have been lost here (few claim that the olai chuvadis in chidhambaram temple ,where nadi josiyam is popular,where the future are predicted ,is nothing but the saved ones,and the remaining lost when this continent drowned )
-Lot of ways of tamil culture is said to have had its origin here..
-It is also said that the present day residents of Kaniya kumari ,are the saved people from the lost continent.

Literary evidence for Kumari Kandam
There are lots of evidence of this lost land in the sangam litreture

-The first eveidence of kumari kandam appears in SKANDA PURANAM
written by Kachiappa Sivachariya..following is a quote/translation from Skanda puranam where Kumani Kandam is mentioned

"The Andakosappadalam section of Kanda Puranamdescribes the following cosmological model of the universe: There are many worlds, each having several continents, which in turn, have several kingdoms. Paratan, the ruler of one such kingdom, had eight sons and one daughter. He further divided his kingdom into nine parts, and the part ruled by his daughter Kumari came to be known as Kumari Kandam after her. Kumari Kandam is described as the kingdom of the Earth. "

-In IRAYANNAR AKKAPORUL (also called the study of stolen love-it is a medival litreture that deals with love and relationship...another beautiful unsung tamil litreture..for more reads check out this link..
Iraiyanar Akapporul
If anyone is in search of a nice romance literature check this out..totally cool stuff
Ok back to the ans ,in Iraniyanar akkaporul  there is a mention about kumari kandam ,it speaks about a lost ocean and specifically mentions a word 'Katalkol' which means 'seizure by ocean'..I guess this pretty much explains it..

-This is from the book KALLITHOGAI ...note the following
Kadal Vowval word to denote uprising of sea annotated by Nachinarkiniyar in Tamil Sangam (6th Century BCE). Kadal Kol, Kadarperuku (like Aadi Peruku) are the others used in various Tamil Sangams.

Underlined words in image

1. Kadal Vowval: fierce uprsing of the sea
2. Mel Sendru: people climed up (in the mountains)
3. Palhi Theerndha Velayum: the white waves that sought revenge
4. Ma Kadal Kalakua Ma Kondra Madanga Por: with the sea waging a huge war

{Poem 104, from Kalithogai, Chapter Mullaikili - describes how the land of Kumari was consumed by sea}
(special thanks to the admin of the facebook page kumari kandam -who keeps updating with evidence )


-There is also mention of Kumari Kandam in SILAPADHIGARAM ...its mentioned like the land extending from Paruli river in the north to kumari river in the south..this land is located to the south of Kanyakumari and covered an area of 700 kavattam and it is divided into 49 territories in the following seven catogories
  • Elu teñku natu ("Seven coconut lands")
  • Elu Maturai natu ("Seven Madurai natu")
  • Elu munpalai natu ("Seven front sandy areas")
  • Elu pinpalai natu ("Seven back sandy tracts")
  • Elu kunra natu ("Seven hilly villages")
  • Elu kunakarai natu ("Seven eastern littoral hamlets")
  • Elu kurumpanai natu ("Seven dwarf-palm districts")
silapadhigaram is the first evidence which has mentioned about the sq.feet area of the lost land ..

There is also a mention of this lost land in tholkappiyam,Purananuru and Kathilkottai ,but it is found scattered among the versus

Monumental evidence of kumari kandam :
-There are lot of temples around tamil nadu which have paintings and inscriptions in their walls on the account of this drastic flood..these include prominent temples in kanyakumari ,thiruvatriyour,sirkhazhi,kumbakonnam  and madurai...
-There is a temple called the seven pagodas of mahabalipuram which is submerged in the sea near ecr ,which is said to have lot of evidence about this flood.
 below quoted from wiki...
The Puranas place the beginning of the most popular Hindu flood myth - the legend of Manu - in South India. The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). The Matsya Purana(dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on
wikipedia.org
Mount Malaya
of South India.[7]:57 Manimekalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the king forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him.[7]:62


-A Tamil-Brahmi inscription that pushes back the association of Samanamalai (“Jaina Hill”), 15 km from Madurai, with Jainism to 2,200 years, has been discovered on the hill.


check out this documentary on kumari kandam in history channel


This documentary too..a must watch


-there is a facebook page for kumari kandam/lemuria which regularly updates on any articles on this topic,which helped me a lot to read about ..
Kumari Kandam

also read,
Lemuria (continent)
Lemuria and Kumari Kandam
Kumari Kandam
The Lost Land of Lemuria
Kumari Kandam- The Lost Continent(குமரிக்கண்டம்)
  
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